Podcast: Jerod Isaacman Speaks with Ross Douthat

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Image (Credit): NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman and New York Times columnist Ross Douthat speaking on the Interesting Times program. (New York Times)

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat sat down with NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman recently to discuss the future of NASA and more. You can listen to the interview, titled ‘The New Space Race,” via the New York Times‘ Interesting Times podcast or watch it on YouTube.

I was a little skeptical about what I would learn from NASA’s new administrator, a billionaire space tourist until recently, but Jared Isaacman was well spoken during the interview. He seemed both candid with his answers as well as well comfortable with everything Ross tossed his way. His only stumble in my opinion was when he was trying to cover for the proposed draconian cuts to NASA by the White House in 2025. Fortunately, Congress saved the agency and his butt, though you would not know that from his answer.

I particularly liked his openness about his own space travels as well as the return mission to the Moon. In terms of himself, he compared his own gravity-free experience in space as the equivalent of being an upside down chipmunk. He also did not appear overwhelmed by his privileged view of the Earth from low Earth orbit. He said the high-definition images from the International Space Station (ISS) over the years has given everyone a great view of the Earth.

As far as establishing an early settlement on the Moon, he did not try to oversell it. He stated:

For the first maybe, I don’t know, 10 years, it’s going to look like a pretty cool futuristic junkyard with lots of landers and rovers around.

Mr. Isaacman also restated his critique of NASA’s handing of the Boeing Starliner mission to the ISS, did not exaggerate the profits to be made in space at the moment, expressed his opinions on intelligent life elsewhere as well as the public’s interest in UFOs, and stated he expected a manned mission to land on Mars within about 10 years.

Check it out for yourself if you want to learn a little more about the man running NASA. The interview runs for about an hour.

Space Quote: SETI and the Swimming Pool

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Image (Credit): Illustration of the Drake Equation. (University of Rochester)

“My inner eight-year-old, my inner Star Trek nerd, started putting this together that we should use the data that we have and try to figure out how to pull the knowledge from 60 years of radio astronomy and apply it into this optical, visible-light astronomy. My hope in pushing this from the radio into the visible light, into the infrared, and other domains of astronomy that are so active is that we can actually push this from a hot tub to maybe an Olympic swimming pool.”

-Comment by James Davenport, an astronomer from the University of Washington, discussing the ongoing search for intelligent life (SETI) with Regina Barber, host of NPR’s Short Wave podcast. They were discussing how the SETI efforts to date equate to searching a hot-tub worth of water compared to the entire ocean. You can hear more in the episode titled “The Serious Hunt for Alien Life.”

A Day in Astronomy: The Death of Eugène Michel Antoniadi

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Image (Credit): E.M. Antoniadi’s 1930 book La Planete Mars. (Linda Hall Library)

On this day in 1944, Greek-French astronomer Eugène Michel Antoniadi passed away in Paris, France.

Mr. Antoniadi was one of the astronomers that battled the idea of a civilization creating canals on the surface of Mars, putting him at odds with American astronomer Percival Lowell. While he was initially open to the idea, he later believed the canals to be an optical illusion.

You can learn much more about the Martian controversy in David Baron’s book The Martians: The True Story of an Alien Craze that Captured Turn-of-the-Century America. You can also hear an interview with the author on the Planetary Society’s Planetary Radio podcast.

Credit: Liveright Publishing

Podcast: We Need To Talk About AI

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Credit: Image by Brian Penny from Pixabay.

The recent Cool Worlds Podcast is basically a rambling talk about the use of AI in the scientific community. Titled “We Need To Talk About AI,” this dialogue by Professor David Kipping follows his visit to the Institute of Advanced Study at Princeton where he heard about how his colleagues are using AI in their work.

Professor Kipping covers many points and makes it clear from the start that he has some serious questions about the impact of AI on his own work and the work of graduate students. For instance, he asks:

  • Will cheap AI change the science community’s need need for graduate students in the future given the time and cost to develop those new scientists compared to the amazing advances in AI?
  • Will the cheap AI program of today become more costly down the road once the AI companies need to recoup the billions of dollars invested in this technology?
  • Will science become too dependent on this technology while human skills atrophy?

He is also very honest about how he uses AI in the production of his own public videos explaining scientific developments and controversies. More interestingly, he wonders aloud whether we will even need his videos in the future as AI gets better and we have the ability to seek our own answers rather than waiting for the next video.

It’s a lot to digest and worth your time, if only because it is an ongoing set of questions in basically every industry at this point.

Listen for yourself and consider giving your own input back to Professor Kipping. He is soliciting your opinion as he finds his way forward in this new world.

Podcast: Does the Younger Generation Even Care about Returning to the Moon?

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In a recent episode of What Next: TBD, titled “Are We Over the Moon?,” the host spoke with Joel Achenbach, freelance journalist and author of an article in Slate called Moondoggle about the upcoming Artemis missions.

The discussion covers the plans for multiple missions to the Moon, the difference in generational interest, and the confusion last year about NASA’s leadership and budget that only brings up more questions.

Overall, Mr. Achenback does not believe the younger generations have much interest in a mission to the Moon. This is a scary statement at a time that NASA is fighting to remain funded and relevant.

It is a podcast (and article) with lessons for NASA’s public relations team, assuming anyone over there is interested.