Podcasts: The Search for Intelligent Life in the Galaxy

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Last month there were a few podcasts worth checking out on our search for intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy.

The first was an episode from The Planetary Society’s podcast Planetary Radio titled Alone but not lonely with Louis Friedman. Dr. Friedman, co-founder of The Planetary Society, is very skeptical about the Search for Extraterrestrial Life (SETI) efforts, believing we are most likely alone in the universe in terms of intelligent life and, even if there were other lifeforms out there, they are too far away for us to engage with it. That said, he does have ideas for studying exoplanets, such as a solar gravity lens that could significantly magnify the objects we are viewing.

He also discusses The Planetary Society’s solar sail spacecraft and how it could be left floating in our solar system awaiting and then inspecting incoming objects from outside our solar system. Its a great idea. You can read more about his ideas in his latest book (shown above).

The second episode is from Cool Worlds Lab titled Adam Frank – Technosignatures, Semantic Information, Galactic Colonization. Dr. Frank, a Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Rochester University, is much more optimistic about our ability to eventually find intelligent life in the galaxy and discusses the methods being used today to do so (going beyond the decades old SETI approach). He agrees with Dr. Friedman that we are dealing with great distances that may preclude human travel to these locations.

Dr. Frank even discusses the idea that maybe we were visited by alien civilizations in the past and we don’t know it because we were not here at the time. He discussed this very topic an much more in an earlier Scientific American article, “Alone in a Crowded Milky Way,” stating:

Perhaps long, long ago aliens came and went. A number of scientists have, over the years, discussed the possibility of looking for artifacts that might have been left behind after such visitations of our solar system. The necessary scope of a complete search is hard to predict, but the situation on Earth alone turns out to be a bit more manageable. In 2018 another of my colleagues, Gavin Schmidt of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, together with Frank, produced a critical assessment of whether we could even tell if there had been an earlier industrial civilization on our planet.

As fantastic as it may seem, Schmidt and Frank argue—as do most planetary scientists—that it is actually very easy for time to erase essentially all signs of technological life on Earth. The only real evidence after a million or more years would boil down to isotopic or chemical stratigraphic anomalies—odd features such as synthetic molecules, plastics or radioactive fallout. Fossil remains and other paleontological markers are so rare and so contingent on special conditions of formation that they might not tell us anything in this case.

It’s a terrific article that also argues that we may be in a part of the galaxy that gets fewer visitors. I recommend listening to the podcast and then reading the article (or checking out his book on the topic, shown below).

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Profile: COSMIC

Image (Credit): Karl G. Jansky Very Large Array (VLA) in New Mexico. (Jeff Hellermann, NRAO/AUI/NSF)

COSMIC, also known as the Commensal Open-Source Multimode Interferometer Cluster, is part of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) by attempting to find technosignatures using the National Science Foundation’s Karl G. Jansky Very Large Array (VLA) in New Mexico. This new project is a joint venture between the SETI Institute and the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). The initial plan is to search for these technosignatures among about 40 million star systems.

Technosignature are basically indicators of technology not caused by natural phenomena. Examples include radio signals, pollutants, nighttime lighting, megastructures, or even the fallout from a nuclear war (not very optimistic, I know). This is different than the biosignatures that other astronomers are looking for among exoplanets by studying the composition of an exoplanet’s atmosphere.  

The NRAO has created a page on the COSMIC project that provides plenty of details.

It is good to see federal funding going into the SETI program again after Congress walked away from the program in 1993. With all the new evidence coming to us regarding the multitude of exoplanets, it only makes sense to have a multi-pronged approach to find alien life, particularly intelligent life.

Let’s hope COSMIC is the start of a new and stronger SETI partnership.

Podcast: Should We Be Talking to the Stars (or Exoplanets, to be More Precise)?

I recommend you tune into another episode from The Planetary Society’s podcast Planetary Radio. In the episode, Space Policy Edition: The Policy Implications of Active SETI, we hear a discussion about the advantages and disadvantages of an active SETI program, and whether we can even cease outreach to the neighboring systems given what has already been transmitted and the nature of our world today.

The guest on the episode is Jacob Haqq Misra, Senior Research Investigator at the Blue Marble Space Institute of Science. He is the author of a new book, Sovereign Mars: Transforming Our Values Through Space Settlement, though his main points related to our SETI program.

For instance, whether or not people support an active or passive SETI program often depends on whether we believe in benevolent or destructive aliens. Of course, the matter is unknowable until it happens, yet fraught with fears based on what we know about ourselves and our own exploration.

The discussion also discussed the presentation of SETI in films, such as Contact, as well as the definition of intelligence itself, be it whales (remember Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home?) or even ChatGPT. And we are already past the point of turning off our “active outreach” given that interested aliens are probably looking for both bio-signatures and techno-signatures, which we are creating without any thought. Astronomers are currently searching for such signatures among the exoplanets, so it would make sense the same type of search is being focused on our solar system.

Plenty of food for thought. Enjoy the show.

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Podcast: Cool Worlds Labs Has Started a Podcast

In an earlier posting, I noted that the people at Cool Worlds Lab were planning to create a podcast to further share the Lab’s research. Well, that day has come and you can now listen to the first episode with Professor David Kipping interviewing Rebecca Charbonneau, who is a Janksy Fellow at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). She is a historian of astronomy who is writing a book on the history of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI).

The conversation covers a number of SETI topics, including a young Carl Sagan’s collaboration with Soviet astronomer I.S. Shklovsky on an English translation of Shklovsky’s book Universe, Life, Intelligence. It was a chance to escape Soviet censors and bring new light to SETI ideas.

It’s a great start to a new series. I look forward to many more podcast episodes in addition to all of the other great media shared by Cool Worlds Labs.

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Podcast: Assist UCLA with a SETI Project

I found another episode from The Planetary Society’s podcast Planetary Radio that is worth checking out. In this episode, Are we Alone? The Search for Alien Technosignatures, Professor Jean-Luc Margot and doctoral student Megan Li discuss their project at University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) to identify signals from other civilizations in the galaxy and then extract information encoded in those extraterrestrial signals. This project, called UCLA SETI, was also the winner of a Planetary Society STEP Grant as well as a NASA grant to conduct this work.

As of last week, a volunteer site was set up to assist the UCLA SETI team with this project. Here is some key information from its website:

We host a citizen science collaboration on Zooniverse. Please consider partnering with us to identify the most interesting signals in our data. Subscribe to our newsletter to stay informed about our progress. Past issues of our newsletter are available.

Watch a two-minute video about the UCLA SETI course or a 30-minute talk about the search for life in the universe.

The video is actually a 55-minute talks, but the key section related to this project starts at the 23:38 minute mark where the downloaded data is discussed.

This is your chance to identify something that no one has every seen before. Put some of that time you might have spent watching The Ark toward something useful.